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The New Marketing Agency Retainer: DTyre-Style

 

dantyre2For those that don't know him yet, Dan Tyre (@dantyre) was HubSpot's first salesperson, first sales manager and first sales director. He's both a HubSpot treasure and a HubSpot legend. If it wasn't for Dan, we wouldn't have an agency partner program. He mentored me through the process of petitioning the executive team to start the program and he literally stood at the front of the room shouting - at top speed - all of the reasons why we should start a program. He is the one, as the Inc article explains, who convinced Brian Halligan (@bhalligan) to reluctantly let us start the program. He has a lot of amazing traits and skills, but one of his more famous ones is his provocative way of convincing people to do things. When he says it, it's compelling.

At the beginning of 2012, DTyre got back involved in the agency partner program and currently manages a handful of channel account managers. In doing so, he's fully internalized what makes a successful inbound marketing agency.

Over the years, we've taught a lot of agencies how to increase their recurring retainer revenue in order to create strong positive cash flow; how to move away from project based work and the cash-flow roller coaster it causes. There's a special way we help them do it. When they follow the advice and training step-by-step, it doesn't fail. In the New Year, I'm going to be bold and call this the New Marketing Agency Retainer. Based on our success helping agencies do this and the resulting success this delivers to clients, I'm going to be really bold and say that this should be the standard way that every agency works.

Last month, DTyre was talking to an agency about 'The New Marketing Agency Retainer'. One of his account managers wrote it down in order to share with the agency afterward:


As we've discussed, we've spoken with many different types and sizes of agencies over the last year about "how and what they sell".  We quickly realized that what we mean by a retainer is different than what they usually mean. What we teach agencies is very different than a standard  “marketing services” retainer. Inbound marketing retainers are key to scaling a profitable agency and achieving the personal & professional goals that elude many agency owners. Here's the differences:

  1. An inbound marketing retainer is an annual (or multi-year) contract for a set scope of activities - performed at specific frequencies - that is designed to help the client achieve their business growth goals.   It is not a month-to-month product-based catch-all for line item marketing services that change based on the whim of the client or some new creative idea that an agency conceives and pitches along the way.
  2. An inbound marketing retainer drives lead generation and customer acquisition which is important for any company serious about growing. Other marketing services are an easy to marginalize, easy to cut expense that is much more peripheral to a company’s success and can be implemented anytime (or not).
  3. An inbound marketing retainer creates tangible content assets as valuable as any other asset on the client’s balance sheet. Investments in blog posts, offers, landing pages and email marketing creative produce traffic, leads and sales month over month even if you take a month's hiatus. It has has paid huge dividends for early adopters as their results are not just cumulative, but compounding. 
  4. An inbound marketing retainer provides value not just to the client's marketing efforts, but to their sales' efforts too. It shows a very direct ROI in lead quantity, quality, sales opportunity velocity and sales rep productivity. Some marketing services can be “squishy” and therefore difficult to justify even if the CMO believes that it is a worthwhile investment.
  5. Regardless of the payment terms, it involves agreeing on very specific short and long term goals and then driving hard to accomplish them as quickly as possible within the budget agreed upon. As a result, it's highly profitable for both the agency and the client alike.

Regardless of the industry segment, generating leads & customers in 2012 was not easy. To produce results, inbound marketing retainers require excellent content generation, world class marketing software and the ability to quickly identify the right conclusions from analytics data,  then act on it with precision and speed.

In Q1 2013, there are two types of agency-to-prospect conversations taking place. One is agency owners justifying their “marketing services” for next year against $250 social media “experts”, free tools available to everyone, and justified by arbitrary improvements in some obtuse marketing metric. The other conversation is a strategic brainstorming session about the goals, plans, challenges and time line with senior level management on how to improve top line revenue results, reduce selling and marketing costs and improve sales rep productivity.

If you are not having those conversations today, you may want to ask yourself, "Why?"

See what I mean? Compelling?

Comments

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Posted @ Friday, January 04, 2013 1:45 PM by Carole Mahoney
This is awesome! Definitely Compelling. I think that the confidence to make the statement "compelling" is what some beginning "retainer" agencies need to have in themselves when they speak with prospects. 
 
Thanks for sharing
Posted @ Friday, January 04, 2013 4:31 PM by Remington Begg
Certainly it's compelling. Kudos for articulating the case so clearly. But now look at the Services Marketplace. As a partner I'm asked to post what the price is for writing a handbook, creating a landing page, or designing and implementing a custom template. We aren't listed for any one-off service for exactly the reasons in this article: Whether or not they know it from the outset, B2B companies need to use a marketing methodology that is sure to produce leads and sales. We can't take responsibility for results if we can't use the methodology that works.
Posted @ Friday, January 04, 2013 5:18 PM by Rebekah Donaldson
Pete, excellent post and i could not agree with you more. 100% of the work we do with our inbound customers is based on retainer business. Project biz leads to putting the focus on selling the client the next project... retainer biz puts the focus on getting the client the results they need to grow their business. My company has been around 30 years helping clients with sales and marketing and its this focus on results has allowed us to earn a 95% retention rate of customers.
Posted @ Friday, January 04, 2013 5:49 PM by Matt
Pete, LOVE this post! You're spot on! When I have strategic conversations, I land the client. When the client is focused on line items and hourly rates and won't engage in talking vision and strategy, I walk away. It's a waste of my time and theirs. 
 
I also couldn't agree more with what Rebekah points out. Why is HS asking us for line item prices in the Services Marketplace? It actually hinders your desire to transform agencies' pricing models. 
 
Keep writing more like this! LOVE, LOVE, LOVE it! 
Posted @ Friday, January 04, 2013 9:07 PM by Mary Planding
nice post and good tribute to Dan. Our agency has played with different pricing models over the past year. It is no surprise that we are netting out with an approach that Dan argues for day-in and day-out. Dan is the Man !
Posted @ Tuesday, January 08, 2013 1:03 PM by Fred Spring
Thanks, Pete! I keep wondering when the "Reflections From Chairman Dan" book is coming out, because every time he opens his mouth I learn something. Great stuff, and wonderful reminders of the philosophies and practices we need to internalize to keep making the kind of progress this business demands. Please keep it coming!
Posted @ Tuesday, January 08, 2013 2:20 PM by Greg Linnemanstons
Retainers are good as long as a 'menu' approach does not substitute for getting paid for the value you deliver. If you advertise a certain set of tasks for a price then your fee and the value you deliver are disconnected. For example, say you think you can help a client grow revenue by $500K with a set a certain set scope of activities at a certain price. What if you could grow their business by $5 mullion? Shouldn't you get paid more for the same set of activities. Fees should always be linked to the value you deliver and not to a set of tasks. 
 
If you publish the list of tasks at a certain price then you risk running into two other issues: one, being price shopped and being put into a service provider bucket that is lower level than the strategic level you should be working on. 
 
Retainers are great but in my mind tie your price to value delivered and not to the set of pre-determined activities. 
 
Great stuff Dan and Pete!
Posted @ Saturday, January 12, 2013 10:09 AM by Todd Hockenberry
Thanks for the post. It makes a lot of sense and I'm 100% on board, but I don't find that my clients are yet. I have no problem meeting with the decision-maker/senior management, and the 'brainstorming' approach is what we do and highly valued. It sets us apart from other agencies which is great! However when it comes to closing, I find that senior management who are new to inbound marketing, meaning it has not been something they have done with regularity, are not willing to commit to annual retainers. I feel like they are on the first rung of the 'ladder of acceptance', and it begins with a project+ monthly. One CEO said he needed a reason to add a new line item to his budget. I liked his comment and thought this is a guy who knows his business. But I feel like there has to be a 6-12 month period before they get there. Am I on the right track? Or off base?
Posted @ Thursday, January 17, 2013 5:52 AM by Cynthia Mackey
What do you mean by brainstorming, Cynthia? I don't brainstorm in my sales process. I am the expert. I am there to diagnose and advise.
Posted @ Thursday, January 17, 2013 6:07 AM by Peter Caputa
I was referencing the final paragraph in your post, about Q1 2013 agency-to-prospect conversations. Perhaps I misunderstood, but I was agreeing and tracking with the brainstorming sessions mentioned. I am now curious if there is a certain type of prospect, that brainstorm sessions resonate better with (e.g., someone who has supports online marketing but isn't doing it well vs. someone brand new to it) to capture the annual retainer.
Posted @ Thursday, January 17, 2013 10:49 AM by Cynthia Mackey
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