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I understand how that might be more effective than straight cold calling assuming you can find the right person. I think it might be a little creepy, though, unless someone has completed a form on your website and expressed some interest.
Have your ever heard of the term "sophomoric?"
Please don't think I'm saying this just to be argumentative, but hopefully in a few years you will look back and see just how much growing up you still need to do.
I know what sophomoric means. It's a good word to describe people who don't have anything constructive to say, who instead rely on insults to demonstrate their lack of maturity.
I'm glad I struck a cord with you, Mr. Greenville Computer Support. Feel free to elaborate. Would love to hear why you think I'm immature.
I would have to disagree with what you are saying since not all companies are as basic. As a Business Development professional I would have to say incoming lead and referrals are a bonus. To make any company profitable, either an entrepreneur, medium sized even large company they must look to other sources (i.e. cold calling) to generate leads to keep referrals on going since referral and personal relationship networks only go so far. Of course this is industry dependant.
As I said in my original post, I was not trying to be argumentative, and even though I didn't say it I was not trying to be insulting either.
This was the first and only post of yours that I have ever read, so I don't know if you're fundamentally a nice guy or a jerk. Judging by your reaction to my post, right now my assesment is 70% nice guy and 30% jerk, but I'm willing to change that one way or the other.
If you are in sales or marketing it is essential that you understand the nuance of language, and you probably think that you do, but consider the word sophomoric:
Dictionary.com uses the following definition:
suggestive of or resembling the traditional sophomore; intellectually pretentious, overconfident, conceited, etc., but immature:
Notice that in that definition, the immature part is just one element, the real core of the definition is the "intellectually pretentious, overconfident, conceited" part.
Consider the typical college sophomore (I'm going to invoke a little poetic license here). What's one of their favorite sports? Making fun of freshmen and the freshman-like mistakes that they make. Mistakes which the sophomore made just the year before and so they are fresh in his mind, but now he thinks he is "so much more mature" because he doesn't make the "freshman" mistakes. But unbeknowst to him he is still maing lots of mistakes, but they are sophomore mistakes, to which he is blind. At least the freshman knows that he is stumbling around. The sophomore thinks he has the world by the short hairs.
By the time he gets to be a senior he realizes his sophomoric folly. But seniors don't stand around and make fun of sophomores (unless the senior is a jerk), because by that time they have matured, and hopefully they've learned to find better things to do with their time. And likewise, I wasn't trying to be insulting about you or your post. I simpy tried to call attention to it so that you might have an easier path to get where you're going in life.
I should be able to stop here and have you see why I called your post sophomoric, but in case you don't yet understand I'll add a little more here.
Consider your statement "I talked to 3 people today who have a decent sized sales team who spend their entire day cold calling. Yes. Cold Calling. All day."
You seem to think you have it all figured out because you know what works for one little corner of the world. You don't yet understand that there might be a lot of reasons that things are done a certain way. The sales manager at these companies that you mention might be luddite idiots -- or you might be the carpenter who thinks the solution to any problem is a hammer. In any case, you can't deny that there was conceit and arrogance in your statement "...who spend their entire day cold calling. Yes. Cold Calling. All day."
Clearly every business should have a website, but there are lots of businesses that will not get much if any business from the web. The question is are you able to expand your thinking to be able to see that?
@Greenville IT Support - Wow. Thanks for the lecture. (Said with conceit and sarcasm.)
I am in sales, but know a thing or 2 about marketing too.
Since November alone, I have spoken to about 1,000 small business owners and marketing professionals. At the most, after understanding who their target market was and how they generate business now, I've found one or two that could not benefit significantly from online marketing, if it would be done right.
It is very rare that I've spoken to anyone who, if they put do what is necessary, can not generate the vast majority of their business through the web after a period of time and intense effort.
You can call it conceit if you'd like. But, I'd just call it facing the facts. The world is changing. You can still certainly sit down and bang the phones and cold call and get lucky once in a while. But, it's a much harder rode to hoe.
So...You might consider that my perceived conceit is your lack of knowledge about internet marketing. From looking at your site, I can understand why you wouldn't know this stuff.
BTW, Do you realize that putting "Greenville IT Support" when you leave a comment does absolutely nothing for your search rankings since the link in my blog comments is "no-followed"?
If I may make a suggestion to you, stick to IT support, leave the personality profiling to the psychiatrists, and either learn internet marketing or stop lecturing about it.
I don't think we will ever really get along, so calling me isn't an option. But, If you'd like to talk to an expert about this stuff, give HubSpot, PR 20/20, or Find and Convert, Garfield Group, Brook Group or Wakefly a call.
@SamanthaPaulson You are right on. Thanks for your respectful comment. In my experience, however, if a company commits to inbound marketing fully, they can develop a very strong high quality lead volume. I would never suggest that personal networks (of founders and salespeople) should be abandoned. They often generate the best referrals. And referrals from existing clients are the best. And Face to face networking with complimentary service providers is a very strong source of leads for some small business owners. However, I can point to examples where blogging and social media marketing can accelerate the referral process significantly when networking online and real world networking are done with the same people.
That said, there are not a lot of companies that have made the full commitment to "using all the web" has to offer. Of course, in this case, they must continue to invest in cold calling and traditional interruption marketing to keep their pipeline full. I suggest they dedicated a fraction of that spend to doing online marketing right w/ no hesitation about blogging, social media, seo and ppc. (Many people think these things won't work for them.) However, if they push their lack of knowledge, experience and their biases aside and find an experienced expert they trust to guide them, they will quickly realize the positive "relative ROI".
You have wrestled me to the ground with your vast intellect, wit and charm, and argumentative skills.
You just got tired and realized there were better things you could be doing with your time.
I thought I'd throw my hat in the ring. I think that people *like* cold calling because at the end of the day they can say because I called 7 people today I have 3 new prospects. This is much harder to do (and prove) online. Until people have tools that can directly correlate web activity to prospect to revenue, phone calls are easier to track.
But as a *user* i hate untargeted cold calls, but tracking website visitors and indirectly referring to their interest is acceptable as you build up to inbound techniques.
Very good point, Jamae. Extremely valid. Until a business starts doing closed loop marketing, they're not going to be able to make the leap of faith.
I cant wait to read much more from you. I just feel like you know so substantially and know how to make people listen
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